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NASCAR limiting team radio communication

Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:17 am
Edited on: December 14, 2011 2:53 pm
By Pete Pistone

Teams will no longer be able to communicate with one another next season under new guidelines implemented by NASCAR.

The sanctioning body will reportedly end the practice of crew chiefs, team members, drivers or spotters talking to one another during races in an effort to break up the two-car drafting tandems at restrictor plate races in Daytona and Talladega.

Last year several teams used in-car communication to discuss drafting options with competitors and help orchestrate the nose-to-tail drafting practice that many fans have come to despise.

While teams will still be allowed to communicate inside an organization they will no longer be allowed to talk with others beginning with Speedweeks in Daytona next February.

Last year some drivers had the ability to talk with more than 20 others via in-car radio.

An official announcement has not yet come from NASCAR, which issued this statement regarding radio communication:

"We are having and will continue to have discussions with the race teams about radio communication, in particular, teams communicating between one another during events and expect to have a policy in place for the 2012 season."

NASCAR is expected to implement other changes to the restrictor plate as well as engine cooling systems to continue the effort to eradicate the two-car tandems.

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Since: Apr 13, 2009
Posted on: December 15, 2011 7:34 am

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

If the driver sticks his hand out the window with his thumb up, then he wants you to draft with him. If he flips you the bird, then he wants you to back off. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't work.

Since: Dec 15, 2011
Posted on: December 15, 2011 1:49 am

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

Changing the cars NOW won't stop two drivers from teaming up. Only gonna stop them from pushing. But they didnt always push. Look at  2007 UAW-Ford 500 at Talladega Part 19 of 21 at youtube and you'll see they have figured out that teaming up with someone is key to charging to the front and hanging there. You can't unlearn that now that it's common sense!
If you  dont team up, you are left vulnerable each time you change lanes with  a chance you will get shuffled out by yourself. Team up, and you virtually eliminate that vulnerability.  2-car Tandem does not REQUIRE that you pushdraft around the track all day, only that you team up with someone nose to tail and commit to working together.

Since: Mar 18, 2007
Posted on: December 15, 2011 12:00 am

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

for those of you who think that nascar changes the rules way to much now must not have not been watching or has forgotten what it was like in the 80's and most of the 90's when racecars looked more like there street cousin with fenders roofs and other stuff all different.  fords would complain that chevy had to much rear down force so nascar wold change the spoiler height 1/4 inch for one of them either taller or shorter.  and that would be race 6 then race 10 pontiac would complain that ford would have to much front grip so then nascar would change there front to get better front grip and so on and so on.  teams would be changing front and rear spoilers heights 5, 6, 8, 10 or more times a year based on what "rules" nascar had for them that particular week at the particular track.  so to put it in perspective nascar really isn't changing the rules as much as they used to back in the good ol' days.


Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 8:53 pm

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

so nascar is still not relevant?

Since: Aug 24, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2011 8:26 pm

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

Is NASCAR so stupid that they think this will stop teams from this type of drafting.  All it takes is for drivers to get together pre-race to come up with a hand signal or something to notify who wants to get with who.  This is not how you fix 2 car drafting if you really wanted to.  NASCAR is going about this all wrong.  They created this type of racing by changing th e cars.  You know how you get rid of it?  That's right, change the cars again. Sure that'll cost $$.  Since they knew this would happen in testing, why didn't they stop it then?

Since: Apr 13, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2011 8:16 pm

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

So in essence what you're saying is that NASCAR isn't any crappier than other professional sports?

Since: Dec 14, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 3:49 pm

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

Tandem drafting is boring and for those who think last season was boring or not as exciting as seasons in the "good ol' days" you obviously didn't watch, it was awesome!! Also, for those claiming that NASCAR makes too many rule changes you don't pay attention to other sports closely enough, football makes changes to it's rules every season and hockey, well NHL hockey is an entirely different sport today compared to a decade ago. Major league baseball made the all-star game a determining factor in who has home field advantage in the world series and the NBA allows it's star players to literally pick which team it wants to go to before their contract is up. On the racing side formula 1 just last year added technology to allow you to get a boost if you are close enough to the driver in front of you...the point is that competion all across the board is being tweaked constantly to make leagues more competitive and/or safer and since Dale's passing NASCAR has not only gotten safer, but they had the first season ending points tie and had to decide the winner based on who won more races, doesn't get much better than that.

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2011 3:20 pm

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

I was fine with tandem drafting. People make a big deal out of it, but the massive packs before weren't any better. With the old way, you were just waiting for the big one. They may prevent communication in car, but not sure how they are going to police spotters from communicating. Still have to communicate to plan pit stops accordingly and what not because cars will still draft whether you allow them to talk or not.

Since: Jun 12, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2011 3:00 pm

NASCAR limiting team radio communication

Wouldn't work, to much time and money to develop each Manufacture specs, + all the R&D time to increase horsepower and reliability. The engineers created the tandem draft. Now It's here to stay


Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 2:16 pm

My proposal

The tandem thing is OK.  "Down South," we are used to insects called "love bugs," which "travel" in pairs during season, and the cars look like a bunch of love bugs when they run in tandem.  It's not what they were looking for, but it is pretty funny to watch.  Limiting communication is stupid and will only cause more accidents due to indecision and/or spontaneous decisions.  If they want to limit tandem racing at 'Dega and Daytona, they need to do something that allows the best teams in the garage to separate themselves from the competition.  Doing it by forcing powerful cars to back off isn't going to work.  

I would suggest requiring a smaller engine for those two races.  Teams swap out engines all the time, and it wouldn't be much more of an expense than it is already.  Make them run with a 4.5 liter engine instead of a 5.86, and take the plates off.  That would take just enough speed off of the top to make it safe for the drivers.  The teams can still pull plenty of speed out of a 4.5, and the races would look more like conventional ones. Tandems and pack-drafting would be a thing of the past, and teams would be rewarded for knowing how to legally milk every last mph of speed out of their cars.   
I guess that would be too easy.

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